Renovating the Heart of Kingdom Leaders - Part 12

The Gift of Curiosity

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Sam Jolman joins the Gary Wilkerson Podcast to talk about the transformational power of curiosity. Whether we are asking about our own intentions or the details of another person's story, true curiosity allows us to better understand ourselves and others.

Key Points from the Podcast

  • Sam Jolman shares his personal experience with counseling as a young adult and how that led him to become a professional Christian counselor.

  • God has given us the gift of curiosity so that we can get to the roots of our feelings and behaviors, rather than merely trying to feel or behave better.

  • Shame can be a hindrance to people looking into the deep areas of their heart that need healing.

  • The gospel invites us to be curious about our desires, our heart, the things that are motivating our behaviors.

  • The goodness of God’s grace is that we can bring our sin to him and allow God to restore us to dignity.

  • Sam Jolman invites us to know our own story and to be curious about other people’s stories.

  • God, in his humility, not in any kind of inadequacy, created us to need more than him. We were created for human connection.

Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

Mark 10:51; Proverbs 13:12

Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

Episodes in this podcast series:

About Sam Jolman

Sam is a therapist and writer who helps people get life back. As a Licensed Professional Counselor I specialize in men’s issues, marriage counseling, and sexual abuse recovery. Though in my 20 years of experience, I’ve walked with many people through a broad range of very important personal and relational struggles.

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About Gary Wilkerson

Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

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